Long kills controversial fenced hunting bill INDIANA
February 1, 2012 | Filed under: Issues,Top stories | Posted by: Lesley Weidenbener
By Lesley Weidenbener
The Statehouse File
INDIANAPOLIS – An effort to legalize fenced deer hunting is dead for this session.
Senate President Pro Tem David Long, R-Fort Wayne, said he will use a procedural move to kill House Bill 1265 and won’t allow it to be considered in the Senate in the 2012 session.
“I think it is a terrible bill,” Long said. “It’s something that first of all it’s not real hunting. It fences in these animals.”
Fenced deer preserves allow hunters to pay money – sometimes thousands of dollars – to shoot deer that are sometimes bred to have larger antlers. Proponents say the preserves are large enough to give the deer plenty of opportunity to escape but critics say they violate the fair chase doctrine that dictates ethical hunting.
In 2006, the Department of Natural Resources passed rules – signed by Gov. Mitch Daniels – that made the preserves illegal. But a lawsuit essentially stopped the enforcement. The suit is still pending and four preserves are operating.
HB 1265 – approved 56-40 by the House this week – would have legalized the preserves and created a licensing process for new businesses.
The bill’s author, Rep. Matt Ubelhor, R-Linton, said the preserves and the farms that provide them with deer already have a $50 million annual economic impact on the state. Ubelhor says that could increase if more preserves are permitted to operate.
But Long said Wednesday he prefers to maintain the status quo.
“The bill as it currently exists would open it wide open,” Long said. “I thought we had an understanding (in the General Assembly) that we weren’t going down that path again.”
Lesley Weidenbener is managing editor of TheStatehouseFile.com, a news website powered by Franklin College journalism students.
http://thestatehousefile.com/long-kills-controversial-fenced-hunting-bill/2937/
Move to expand Ind. fenced deer hunting shelved
1:38 PM, Feb. 2, 2012
INDIANAPOLIS (WTW) — An attempt to legalize hunting deer and elk that are kept inside high fences has been shelved by the state Senate's leader.
The House voted 56-40 this week to approve a bill allowing the fenced hunting, but Senate President Pro Tem David Long said he thought it was a "terrible idea" and will use a procedural move to kill the proposal for this year's legislative session.
The bill would have legalized four existing shooting preserves that are now operating under an injunction issued in a lawsuit against state Department of Natural Resources rules adopted in 2006 to ban captive hunting. The bill also would have allowed more similar preserves to operate.
Long, R-Fort Wayne, said Wednesday that he believed legislators reached a tacit agreement several years ago not to intercede.
"It's not real hunting," he said. "It fences in these animals. Almost every real hunter that I talk to says it's a terrible idea and they don't support it."
Supporters say legalizing the fenced hunting preserves would be an economic boon and would provide Indiana's 400 deer farms with a place to sell their animals.
Rick Miller, president of the Indiana Deer and Elk Farmers Association, told The Journal Gazette in Fort Wayne (http://bit.ly/z2oSiH) that deer farmers are now selling their deer out of state, but he expects that chronic wasting disease, which is fatal to deer and elk, will eventually hit Indiana and force an end to such sales. He said Indiana's existing preserves wouldn't be enough to keep the farms in business.
"They're killing us," Miller said of the Senate action. "We are begging lawmakers to help us put it to bed one way or another."
Eleven states have full bans on captive hunting and 15 states have partial prohibitions. States surrounding Indiana do not have a ban, and shooting preserves and deer farming have boomed there.
Bill sponsor Rep. Matt Ubelhor, R-Bloomfield, said Indiana's existing preserves are large — akin to 80 city blocks — and allow deer the opportunity to elude hunters.
"It's certainly fair chase," Ubelhor said.
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Senate President Pro Tem David Long, R-Fort Wayne, said he will use a procedural move to kill House Bill 1265 and won’t allow it to be considered in the Senate in the 2012 session.
“I think it is a terrible bill,” Long said. “It’s something that first of all it’s not real hunting. It fences in these animals.”
BRILLIANT MOVE BY Senate President Pro Tem David Long, R-Fort Wayne, even though he is a Republican ;-)
I could not agree more. ...tss
With CWD spreading, and CJD rising in the USA and Canada, with rise in pcsCJD i.e. pending classification sporadic CJD i.e. they don’t know what or where in the world this strain came from, and refuse to investigate further, ignoring updated science that not only has CWD mutated into a second strain i.e. Wisconsin Strain of CWD, and the fact that many scientist around the globe are very concerned for the potential of CWD being a zoonosis disease. Also ignoring recent updated science that shows a link between atypical BSE and atypical Scrapie with sporadic CJD. All this moved me to dig a bit deeper into these game farms that raise deer and or elk to enhance their natural size and antler spread and circumference i.e. farmed ‘straw’ bred bucks. in my opinion, there is no ethics in hunter farmed 'straw' bred bucks. I wanted to find out just how dangerous these game farms are to the wild, considering for the captives, most are nothing more than a petri dish for disease i.e. CWD.
What I found was interested, and concerning. the close proximity from cwd infected game farm to cwd infected game farm, and the CWD infection in the wild surrounding those said game farms. I wrote the Wisconsin DNR and division of animal health asking ;
‘‘Could you please tell me where I can locate the information on each CWD infected game farm in Wisconsin (all nine to date), dates they became infected, infection rate, etc. ???’’
They were very kind in replying and supplied the following information ;
Friday, February 03, 2012
Wisconsin Farm-Raised Deer Farms and CWD there from 2012 report Singeltary et al
http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2012/02/wisconsin-farm-raised-deer-farms-and.html
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Subject: re-Indiana game farming cervids and CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE THERE FROM
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http://www.prpsc.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=prpsccwd&action=display&thread=2
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Comment from Terry Singeltary Document ID: APHIS-2011-0032-0002Document
Type: Public Submission
This is comment on Notice: Agency Information Collection Activities; Proposals, Submissions, and Approvals:
Chronic Wasting Disease Herd Certification Program Docket ID: APHIS-2011-0032RIN:
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Public Comment Status: Posted Received Date: January 24 2012, at 12:00 AM Eastern Standard Time Date Posted: January 25 2012, at 12:00 AM Eastern Standard Time Comment Start Date: January 24 2012, at 12:00 AM Eastern Standard Time Comment Due Date: March 26 2012, at 11:59 PM Eastern Daylight
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First Name: Terry
Middle Name: S.
Last Name: Singeltary
City: Bacliff
Country: United States State or Province: TX
Organization Name: LAYPERSON
Submitter's Representative: CJD TSE PRION VICTIMS
Comment: Agency Information Collection Activities; Proposals, Submissions, and Approvals: Chronic Wasting Disease Herd Certification Program (Document ID APHIS-2011-0032-0001) I believe that any voluntary program for CWD free herd certification from game farms will be futile, as was the partial and voluntary mad cow feed ban of August 4, 1997. That failed terribly, with some 10,000,000 of banned blood laced MBM being fed out in 2007, a decade post August 4, 1997 partial and voluntary ban. Game farms are a petri dish for CWD TSE Prion disease, with Wisconsin having documented 9 CWD infected game farms, with one having the highest CWD infection rate in the world, 80% CWD infection rate. I believe that all game farms should be SHUT DOWN PERMANENTLY. CWD TSE prion disease survives ashing to 600 degrees celsius, that’s around 1112 degrees farenheit. you cannot cook the CWD TSE prion disease out of meat. you can take the ash and mix it with saline and inject that ash into a mouse, and the mouse will go down with TSE. Prion Infected Meat-and-Bone Meal Is Still Infectious after Biodiesel Production as well. the TSE prion agent also survives Simulated Wastewater Treatment Processes. IN fact, you should also know that the CWD TSE Prion agent will survive in the environment for years, if not decades. you can bury it and it will not go away. CWD TSE agent is capable of infected your water table i.e. Detection of protease-resistant cervid prion protein in water from a CWD-endemic area. it’s not your ordinary pathogen you can just cook it out and be done with. that’s what’s so worrisome about Iatrogenic mode of transmission, a simple autoclave will not kill this TSE prion agent.
Tuesday, December 20,
2011 CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE CWD WISCONSIN Almond Deer (Buckhorn Flats) Farm Update DECEMBER 2011
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/nrboard/2011/december/12-11-2b2.pdf
http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/
additional data submission ; Name: Terry S. Singeltary
Address: Bacliff, TX,
Submitter's Representative: CJD TSE PRION VICTIMS
Organization: LAYPERSON
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General Comment Agency Information Collection Activities; Proposals, Submissions, and Approvals: Chronic Wasting Disease Herd Certification Program (Document ID APHIS-2011-0032-0001)
I believe that any voluntary program for CWD free herd certification from game farms will be futile, as was the partial and voluntary mad cow feed ban of August 4, 1997. That failed terribly, with some 10,000,000 of banned blood laced MBM being fed out in 2007, a decade post August 4, 1997 partial and voluntary ban.
Game farms are a petri dish for CWD TSE Prion disease, with Wisconsin having documented 9 CWD infected game farms, with one having the highest CWD infection rate in the world, 80% CWD infection rate.
I believe that all game farms should be SHUT DOWN PERMANENTLY.
CWD TSE prion disease survives ashing to 600 degrees celsius, that’s around 1112 degrees farenheit.
you cannot cook the CWD TSE prion disease out of meat.
you can take the ash and mix it with saline and inject that ash into a mouse, and the mouse will go down with TSE.
Prion Infected Meat-and-Bone Meal Is Still Infectious after Biodiesel Production as well.
the TSE prion agent also survives Simulated Wastewater Treatment Processes.
IN fact, you should also know that the CWD TSE Prion agent will survive in the environment for years, if not decades.
you can bury it and it will not go away.
CWD TSE agent is capable of infected your water table i.e. Detection of protease-resistant cervid prion protein in water from a CWD-endemic area.
it’s not your ordinary pathogen you can just cook it out and be done with.
that’s what’s so worrisome about Iatrogenic mode of transmission, a simple autoclave will not kill this TSE prion agent.
Tuesday, December 20, 2011
CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE CWD WISCONSIN Almond Deer (Buckhorn Flats) Farm Update DECEMBER 2011
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/nrboard/2011/december/12-11-2b2.pdf
http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/
http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=APHIS-2011-0032-0002
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